…in which we follow the River Eden downstream to Kirkby Stephen with leading campaigner in the walking world, Kate Ashbrook, General Secretary of the Open Spaces Society and Chair of the Ramblers. As we head north from Pendragon Castle we discuss the joy of sunrise walks, the never-ending battle to open the countryside and taking Nicholas van Hoogstraten to court.
We're grateful to today's guest producer, Helen Millican from BBC Cumbria, for standing in for Dave. Helen hosts the weekly Great Outdoors show.
For more about the Ramblers 'Don't Lose Your Way' campaign see https://www.ramblers.org.uk/get-involved/campaign-with-us/dont-lose-your-way-2026.aspx
For more about Walkers Are Welcome see walkersarewelcome.org.uk
Helen and Kate in front of the increasingly dilapidated Lammerside Castle.
Kate (right), and Helen.
Looking along the Eden and up Mallerstang.
Helen: our guest co-host and producer for the walk. Thanks Helen!
A long way to London! Old AA sign in Nateby.
Our route for the day.